Police: Lacey Teen Pointed Flare Gun at Car

Police blotter for the past week

Lacey police charged a 13-year-old Lanoka Harbor boy after he allegedly pointed a flare gun at a car.

Police received a report by a Lacey Township resident that while driving down Deerhead Lake Drive at 5:15 p.m. Jan. 19, she observed the teenager pointing what was believed to be a flare gun at the vehicle.

Investigation of the allegation led to the teenager being charged with possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose, unlawful possession of a weapon, aggravated assault with a weapon and obstructing the administration of law.

The flare gun was recovered during the investigation.

Lt. James Veltri provided the following information:

Jan. 22
Edward Thau, 50, of Forked River was arrested at 3:19 p.m. for allegedly shoplifting $257.43 worth of Walmart merchandise, including baseball hats and electronic games.

A $1,500 warrant was issued for the shoplifting charges. While in custody, police found that Thau also had a $900 warrant from Wall Township and a $431 warrant from Ocean Township. He was unable to post bail and sent to Ocean County Jail. 

Jan. 21
A resident from Center Street in Forked River reported that items were stolen from their home. The stolen items, including cellular phones, were valued just under $600. There was no forced entry. Investigative efforts by police working in conjunction with the victim led to the items being recovered. Criminal prosecution is pending. 

Jan. 20
An officer parked on Route 9 conducted a computer check on a motor vehicle at 1:26 a.m. and found that the car had an expired registration.

A motor vehicle stop was then conducted and Nicholas DeStefano, 35, of Bayville was charged with DWI, refusal to submit to a breath test, reckless driving, failure to maintain lane, expired registration, failure to change address and DWI within 1,000 feet of a school. 

Jan. 20
A resident on East Hickory Drive in Lanoka Harbor reported that someone damaged a metal mailbox and post value at $50. 

Jan. 20
A Forked River resident reported that someone gained entry into a locked vehicle. Stolen were several credit cards that were inside a purse secured inside the car. The car did not sustain damage.

Investigation by Lacey police determined that the credit cards were utilized at Lacey Township businesses.

The same victim reported that someone stole two rings, valued at $2,000, from within her residence. There was no forced entry. The investigation is ongoing. Investigated. 

Jan. 20
A resident of Pine Beach reported that their unlocked car, parked at a local restaurant, was entered. A wallet containing personal identification and credit cards was stolen. The total value was $95.

Captain Ed January 25, 2013 at 05:15 PM
Trust me. It was my friends neighbors kid. It happened.
Chris L January 25, 2013 at 05:35 PM
I totally get what you are saying Captain Ed but i disagree. It sucks what happened to your friends kid but he should have been paying more attention (and checking behind him every now and then). Not saying he deserved it or I wouldnt ask for leniency but it happens. As for this kid, he does deserve punishment. Dont forget he isnt going to get life and because of his age it should all get taken off of his record when he turns 18. But its not even just about this one kid. Everyone who knows this kid is going to see the example they are setting with him and I hope that anyone would think twice about doing something like that. yes no one got harmed but if he would have accidentally fired it, it could have cause accidents. Even just pointing it could have done the same. Not saying he should go to jail but at least get charged with what he did. Have to answer to the same authority any one else should
Captain Ed January 25, 2013 at 07:19 PM
I think some of us need to think back to some of the stupid shit we did as kids. Throwing snowballs at cars are MUCH MUCH MUCH more dangerous then a flare hitting a car. And he didnt do that. He pointed it. Give me a goddamn break. So if you ever made a motion as a kid to throw a snowball at a car you should get what hes getting no questions asked. My guess would be many of you would be convicted felons now.
Captain Ed January 25, 2013 at 07:28 PM
Cmon people lets use our heads. Drug dealers put them away and throw away the key. Not give them a hug and blame society. Same with burglars and thieves. Lock em up. But if a young kid like 13 does something dumb (AND IF HES A DECENT KID NOT A DELINQUENT) then treat him as such. Thats all Im asking. Cuz if we did that when most of us were kids MANY of you would be convicted felons now with the laws now and some of the current thinking.
Robert Yates January 25, 2013 at 07:35 PM
Did you ever consider that the law is stupid, overweening, redundant and abusive. At the very most this kids should be charged with misdemeanor assault and after a good dressing down, the charges should be dropped. A plastic flare-gun is not a weapon; it's a tool. I am not saying that criminals should not pay for their offenses, but in this day and age almost everything is a crime.
Robert Yates January 25, 2013 at 07:37 PM
Captain Ed is right on with this one.
dedicated vol. January 25, 2013 at 07:51 PM
What if he shot the flare gun off, it goes through a window and ignites a house on fire, putting people in danger. Would he be a dopy 13y/o then? Wake up people someone could of got seriously hurt or killed!
Forked Tongue January 25, 2013 at 08:22 PM
A snow ball hitting a car is" much much much more dangerous then a flare hitting a car." Come on Captain you can't really be that stupid!
Captain Ed January 25, 2013 at 08:55 PM
What if. What if. What if he bashed it over someones skull and killed them. Lets worry about what he DID. NOT what he didn't do or could have done or might have done. It probably wasnt even loaded. If so its a flare. Not a shot gun shell. It fizzles like a bottle rocket. Lets not start thinking like these ass-wipes on Capitol hill. Were from Lacey damn it. Use your brain. If he killed someone or shot it at the car then he would be charged as such. He pointed it at a car. A 3,000 lb plus object. Not someone's face. Maybe some of you should try shooting a flare gun. Youll understand once you do.
Phil A Sheo January 25, 2013 at 09:00 PM
I agree with you Captain. I'd like to try shooting a flare gun up your tail pipe and watch the exhaust come out your mouth.
Captain Ed January 26, 2013 at 12:10 AM
Awww. Look another dopey kid (Phil) from Lacey trying to get attention. Maybe Piney Boy was right. Maybe I shouldn't defend these idiots.
iknow January 26, 2013 at 12:26 AM
The police charge juveniles with the crimes that they commit. It is then up to a panel to decide what the punishment for the juvenile will be. If the police did not charge the 13 year old with the crime he committed, then they would risk numerous complaints to the department or the prosecutor's office for failing to do their job. We do not know who this juvenile is or what his history is. Perhaps he has been charged with delinquency before? If this kid was given a slap on the wrist at the scene, and then the next day he walked into the middle school and shot a teacher with the flare gun, could you imagine the lawsuit that Lacey Township would find itself the target of? The police did their job. If the juvenile court wants to be lenient then that is their decision. Do the charges sound heavy? Yes. Will the juvenile be convicted and punished severely for each charge? Probably not. Don't get yourselves all spun up and upset over a 13 year old facing the consequences of his actions. Relax.
RDinLacey January 26, 2013 at 01:48 AM
A couple of years ago, in the wooded area behind my home, a couple of teenagers decided it would be fun to dress up like gang-bangers and run around pointing very real-looking guns at each other. Problem was, my five year old son and his friend were playing in my back yard at the time and I looked up and saw someone pointing a gun in our direction. Once I got the kids indoors, I tried to address the teens from a safe distance, but they ran off. Still don't know if the guns were real or not, but I certainly wished that these kids had understood that someone would err on the side of caution and assume that they were real and perhaps react seriously. I know that kids make bad choices sometimes, but it's really not ok to scare people like this. Doesn't matter what kind of gun it was, it is the fear that it ignites that matters people.
proud January 26, 2013 at 03:13 AM
Was one of them your hubby?
Captain Ed January 26, 2013 at 09:08 AM
iknow, that sounds like a decent system but unfortunately those charges will still follow that kid the rest of his life. Everyone thinks they magically disappear when you turn 18 but they dont. If he applies for a govt job that requires an extensive background check it will pop right up. Like RD said, its ALL about reaction. Especially right now. The word GUN. If he pointed a hand held flare which is almost identical noone would care, but because someone got scared then hes screwed. And all 13 year olds probably dont fully realize how people are going to react. He probably knew it was an orange plastic flare launcher that you probably wouldnt even realize was launched if it was fired at the car unless you saw it. If it was a snowball he threw noone would care. If he made a motion like he was going to throw it even less. And snow balls hitting cars are far more dangerous. Its all about people getting scared. It was NOT a gun he pointed. It was an orange plastic flare launcher. Lets take the word GUN out since its NOT a gun.
Captain Ed January 26, 2013 at 09:19 AM
I dont know the kid and maybe hes a delinquent or headed down that path. If so then he was asking for it. But from what the charges sound like and if it was your kid you would be going nuts over those serious charges and something this stupid. And often what winds up happening is if the kid gets screwed to the wall over something stupid your just creating a very angry and resentful kid thats now going to do his best to GET even or get his moneys worth and take it out on someone else when the opportunity arises. Thats how some kids are. You treat them unfairly or screw them to the wall over something they will get even. Even if its just.in their minds.
Captain Ed January 26, 2013 at 09:47 AM
As Mr Yates pointed out the laws on the books nowadays are very very extensive. Everything is a crime or a felony. It is designed so that bad guys can get nailed to the wall for a huge list of stuff when they do something bad. However if your a dopey kid you could also be too. Every kid I ever knew lit firecrackers as kids. It was almost a right of passage. It still is sort of. A kid gets caught now doing that and I cant even imagine what kinds of charges he could be facing. Maybe even be put on a terrorism watch list and threat to homeland security. Kids cant really be kids anymore or make dumb mistakes without it possibly effecting the rest of their lives. Thats the point. Its NOT supposed to be this way. They are supposed to be PARENTED not POLICED. This is not Nazi Germany.
proud January 26, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Would he have been charged if he pointed a snowball at a car?
Paul Ryan January 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM
cash Billy cash
Paul Ryan January 26, 2013 at 12:07 PM
I hope you don't have kids Captain Ed
Paul Ryan January 26, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Capt Did Adam Lanza have a record?
Paul Ryan January 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM
I think it was you Frank or were you making stalagmites in yer basement
Paul Ryan January 26, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Laws are in place to protect the stupid
Robert Yates January 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM
@Paul Ryan: Laws should be in place to protect life, liberty and property. Any law that seeks to protect people from themselves is invalid as a violation of liberty. They are manifestations of an arrogant nanny state mentality. @R.DinLacey: It's already illegal to scare someone, hence my suggestion that he be charged with misdemeanor assault if anything. @inknow: the captain already addressed your point re: prospective crimes. The law does not and can not judge something before it occurs. The infinite possibilities of what someone might do are irrelevant.
R. Hardt January 26, 2013 at 01:14 PM
It is against the law for a cop to sit n run plates, They need probable cause. I had a cop do it to me and my reg. had exp.. 3 days b4 that i didnt relize. But since he needed probable cause he said i was following to closely! Wich i was not! He made it up. So i went to court n it cost me $458. in fines for his lie! The cops lie n brake the law too just to make the town some money! This country is becomming a comunist one!
Captain Ed January 26, 2013 at 04:14 PM
Hardt it kind of already is one unfortunately. And Jersey is pretty high up there compared to other states. There are only a few that are worse like California and New York. Mommy Cuomo and Nanny Bloomberg are certainly doing their best to cement that in place. The President and Congress are doing the same as well. Mr Yates is more versed about the laws then I am but I certainly agree with him. By the way, some of you that think FLARE GUNS are so scary and lethal- go on YouTube and watch all the videos of dumb ass kids shooting themselves in the head with flare guns. Although incredibly stupid and a bit painful its pretty damn far from lethal. Especially if your in a moving car. Daaaaa.
JAKE 2 January 28, 2013 at 01:19 AM
i kjnow there not lethal , but shouldnt any gun regardless , be treated with respect....i would think it could take an eye out or injure it pretty bad....i do not think the kid should have any legal action against him , but its just the fact.....learn to use guns correctly , regardless of what danger they impose...shouldnt be pointing it at cars,,,, im sorry, it s my opinion..... he s young and should learn a lesson...but not from the law....
Captain Ed January 28, 2013 at 03:49 PM
Jake of course. Absolutely. Im just saying just cuz a dopey kid pointed a plastic flare launcher at a car doesnt mean we should treat him like he shot someone with a gun. Time to dial it back a notch and stop over-reacting. Again, all of our kids are capable of doing such things. And if your kid had all those charges afterwards you would understand what I mean.
iknow January 29, 2013 at 06:18 PM
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.. NONE. You should really try and research something before you make a statement like that. Do you want me to post a link of the legality of running license plates, or do you want to be a big boy and learn by doing the research yourself? Let me know.
iknow January 29, 2013 at 06:24 PM
Ed, as I stated above, the juvenile will get his day in Court. Obviously this isn't just a "dopey" kid.. "Dopey kids" kick over garbage cans, throw eggs, and do other mischievous things that don't cause people to fear for their lives. I know what a flare gun is, and if one was pointed at me I would be frightened. This is not about a "dopey kid", it's about someone unnecessarily fearing that they were going to have a flare gun shell shot through their window. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwB292Yz6gY


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