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SPEAK OUT: Route 9 & Lacey Road

Why is there no work being done on the road construction at the corner of rt. 9 and Lacey Rd.?

Progress has been made on the GSP all winter but no one works on the Lacey intersection! Any idea why our residents, taxpayers, and business owners have to put up with this mess for so long?
Trevor Finch February 16, 2014 at 09:46 AM
Maybe it's the 10 feet of snow we've gotten this year?!? What a stupid article. This site is rediculous anymore.
Leo February 16, 2014 at 10:02 AM
10 ft of Snow? Well, nobody is forcing you to read it I thought the town and the DEP had reached a settlement? Construction stops CC investigation Railroad Ave no permit Voted down by the tax payers Failed 3 times at the DEP Then Failed 13 times at the DEP A settlement then nothing you decide if it politics
Mary Neral Lanterman February 16, 2014 at 10:46 AM
Justin, the plants you mentioned are too far away. The trucks can't keep the product hot over long distances. The plants that are close to use do close when the weather is too cold.
Resident of Lacey February 16, 2014 at 02:47 PM
Did anyone happen to notice the weather? It would seem as if it has cheated many thing to go off schedule as well as made for many more dangerous conditions on our roads. I am sure I will get someone that will say "that is what they get for taking the job" but I would like to remind everyone here whom cant see past their own tiny little lives that a construction site such as the 9 and Lacey rd intersection is not as well protected as the parkway or turnpike's sites. There are many valid safety concerns that could and should stall a project when the weather is as it has been. The people working on these projects are someone's husbands, fathers and children. It is really sad that so many people would like to see then exposed to the additional risks imposed by adding dangerous foul weather conditions to the all ready poorly skilled drivers. In my life time I have driven millions of miles and seen many stupid events take place and poor weather just enhances it every time. BTW what do you think the result might be of putting asphalt and concrete down when there are salt spreading activities taking place? Another point to consider is that the same companies that are performing the road work deliver plowing and salting services to many communities and my likely be performing those duties so you can all later complain about the pot-holes and what a bad job they did plowing. .:-Feed the Patch-:.
crackaloon February 16, 2014 at 05:19 PM
The state gets money via the parkway. Plus it's a good place to set up relatives and political friends. Rt9 projects will always be slow, seemingly mindless, and inefficient. 2 lanes, 1 lane, 3 lanes, 1 lane....repeat. Stop go stop go stop go, time the red lights to continue this progress. It's been this way forever, and will likely continue forever.
crackaloon February 16, 2014 at 05:21 PM
...and holy hell. Half the town can get paved in a matter of weeks. One intersection isn't done yet. There's no good excuse.
Leo February 16, 2014 at 05:53 PM
I thought the town and the DEP had reached a settlement? Construction stops CC investigation Railroad Ave no permit Voted down by the tax payers Failed 3 times at the DEP Then Failed 13 times at the DEP A settlement then nothing you decide if it politics Does anyone know how much Railroad Ave is suppose to cost? I see tax payers ask but the Township Committee dance around the question.
Resident of Lacey February 16, 2014 at 08:29 PM
Frankly I dont care what Railroad Ave is suppose to cost, just build it already!
Leo February 17, 2014 at 08:41 AM
New Jersey Department of Transportation 1035 Parkway Avenue Trenton, NJ 08625 Central Region Hunterdon, Mercer, Middlesex, Monmouth, Ocean, Somerset counties and portions of Warren County (Routes 22, 122, 173, 78 and including south of Route 57) Executive Director's Office 732.625.4340
Resident of Lacey February 17, 2014 at 08:52 AM
Leo that is perhaps an interesting point you bring to light, could you by chance expand on it?
Leo February 17, 2014 at 09:11 AM
Resident, May I suggest you call and get back to us
WhyohWhy February 17, 2014 at 09:29 AM
This is just hearsay... but I heard "thru the grapevine" that the Company that was hired to do the paving took the deposit money or binder or whatever you call it and skipped/ bankrupt and can no longer finish the job so they now have to find another company . Did anyone else hear this or some similar story?
Leo February 17, 2014 at 09:45 AM
New Jersey Department of Transportation 1035 Parkway Avenue Trenton, NJ 08625 Central Region Hunterdon, Mercer, Middlesex, Monmouth, Ocean, Somerset counties and portions of Warren County (Routes 22, 122, 173, 78 and including south of Route 57) Executive Director's Office 732.625.4340 Call tomorrow call often maybe they will get tired of hearing from the tax payers of Lacey and will finish it
Resident of Lacey February 17, 2014 at 01:31 PM
Thanks Leo however I really don't care that much to know, I have far more pressing things to deal with.... Hummmm, like living life and accepting that some things are just as they need to be for the moment.
Leo February 17, 2014 at 01:58 PM
You are welcome Resident. However I have to ask. If you "don't care that much to know, I have far more pressing things to deal with" Why are you on here? The tax payers voted NO Road but the TC pushed on WHY?
Resident of Lacey February 17, 2014 at 02:19 PM
Why am I on this topic, because everyone needs to take a brake from serious reality and there is no place better to find silliness and stupidity than the patch with amusing fantasy about who said or did what and predictions for the future and reporters who like to show mostly the darker side of Lacey. Although the tax payers whom voted NO to the road prevailed that doesn't mean it still wont happen. The road is wanted and needed, there are many who do also agree on that as well. Will it happen? I don't know but I am hopeful that it will. I know if obama wanted it to happen it wouldn't matter what voters wanted as he has a pen and a phone. More seriously though when one opts to engage in commenting on the patch there is much to be learned from the opinions offered and that can be extremely valuable information and it is offered up free of charge, but the more comments that are read and posted the more revenue that is generated for the stakeholders. (http://www.haleglobal.com/) Lots of good people lost jobs after AOL dumped patch, the "update" last year was the last ditch effort to correctly monetize the patch, it hasn't paid off well so far.
Leo February 17, 2014 at 03:28 PM
The road is wanted by the people of Sunrise. It is not needed by most of the tax payers. Resident you also missed the point Railroad Ave doesn't have a permit. It was voted down by the tax payers It failed 3 times then it failed 13 times Let the Township Committee post the cost estimate from T & M and let the Tax Payers vote on it With the never ending tax increases from the TC, Boe and the Ocean County Freeholders, LMUA and the OCUA Somehow I don't think it will pass But I do find it odd that after the DEP had reached a settlement that there is still no permit and Gov Christie is under investigation.
Resident of Lacey February 17, 2014 at 03:47 PM
Clearly you are more attached to this issue than I am as I did miss your points and I am perhaps still missing something as I don't see many of the connections you are referencing. I really don't care what has to be done to get the road started and completed just find someone to make it all happen. Yes the DEP does have a habit of dragging things out needlessly though you are right that it is good that they finally got that settled. I also agree with you Leo that it would be great if the Christie investigation could be wrapped up quickly too so he can get back to focusing on more important things such as running the state. We might not have as many problems if more people went to town meetings and came out to vote.
Leo February 17, 2014 at 04:10 PM
Resident Do you really think the investigation begins and ends with the Bridge? Because if you do I have one to sell you. Don't you find it the slightest bit funny the rats are jumping ship or taking the 5th ? Sorry Resident the road will never be built. No Permit will ever be issued. Why because when hauled into court they wont be able to make the violations go away. That is unless the folks on the list at those meetings including Mr Gilmore want to take the 5th But I thought you didn't care? Christie will be tied to the land deals in Harrison Hoboken and Ft Lee its just a matter of time
Resident of Lacey February 17, 2014 at 08:08 PM
Well Leo I still don't care and it would seem you have your own agenda and perhaps closer relationships to those in controlling positions. I feel the NJ investigations are like putting a band-aid on the finger of a country having a hartattack, the real place the investigation should focus is in our whitehouse. Now that I do care about, lets fix Washington first because if we don't it wont really matter what happens anywhere else. I see New Jersey being used as a distraction while more damage is being done to our country's values as a whole.
Leo February 18, 2014 at 08:06 AM
Resident, Clearly you have your own blind agenda. Your are worried about Washington but don't care about the vote here in Lacey that was ignored? I find that odd. I also feel the DEP failed to do their job because of politics. How you or anyone else can justify after Railroad Ave failing for first 3 then 13 times then magically reaching a settlement sure seems like politics to me. Gov Christie is going to be exposed as a fraud. Making a job for a high school buddy then claiming he doesn't know him? Land deals? His staff taking the 5th?
Resident of Lacey February 18, 2014 at 02:06 PM
Leo you are correct, my agenda is that I care more about what is directly having an large scale impact and will well into the future as opposed to one small controversial road. Politics will always be politics and in the big picture local politics are petty when step outside the tiny little box one has placed around themselves. Right O' I have my own agenda as do you and for the moment we are allowed to but that is not the vision some others in power want it to stay. So you feel it is okay to ignore the Constitution and do what you want if your president, force people to enter into commerce regardless of their financial means to do so and fine them if they don't? But pass a road trough the DEP and up go the pitchforks and torches, I'am the one missing something? Really the road is trivial in contrast to what is being done to our rights as citizens of America.
Leo February 19, 2014 at 08:46 AM
Resident I think you said you didn't care about the cost of the road. That would mean you don't care about the vote or the law or the rights of the voters. The road didn't pass the DEP it was political.
Resident of Lacey February 19, 2014 at 09:15 PM
Leo, what I said is that I feel the road is trivial in contrast to the other issues facing our country. It is the very rights of the citizens that I do care about, just not concerning this road. I want to see it built because then I can drive on it rather that sit in traffic in addition to not having to hear about it any more. It is also likely that the voters might have gone another way had they not been pelted with "save it, don't pave it" all over the place. What I would really like to see happen with it would be to turn it back into a railroad again with replica train cars from that era and have it run regularly. But that is not likely to happen either.
Leo February 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM
Resident Did it ever occur to that the voters don't want to pay so you don't have to sit in traffic? This road would not benefit most of the tax payers in town. I need to correct you. You stated you don't care what it cost. Did it occur to you the very same people pushing for it have conflicts of interest? If you don't want to sit in traffic perhaps you should have thought about buying your home in Sunrise.
Resident of Lacey February 20, 2014 at 08:20 AM
It was my understanding that the monies had already been spent on this and those are the costs to witch I was referring. If that is not the case then my opinion would be completely different. I am in favor of to road as it would improve the overall flow of traffic within out community, I have no conflict of interest. How would I have to sit in less traffic if I had bought my home in sunrise, is there some special sunrise residents only access road?
Leo February 20, 2014 at 08:56 AM
Resident The TC bonded 3 million dollars. So far they have spent 1 million in "soft cost" so there is about 2 million left. There is no permit to date. The road was voted down by the tax payers. Then failed twice. To date the TC has not and will not release the cost estimate from T & M for the "road".
Resident of Lacey February 21, 2014 at 11:57 AM
I will look into that further but do tell me how it would be better if I bought my home in sunrise? I am still interested to know how that would help me avoid the traffic flow problems.
Joe DeVona April 08, 2014 at 04:29 PM
Whos the genius the designed the new roadway on Route 9--Cant believe they put a divider in the middle--now watch for all the accidents--just today I saw 10 or so cars turn round in FOHO plaza.All this for a bus stop,basically,after u pass our place it goes back into one lane after a block--killing businesses all along the highway--this is a colossal waste of time and money--our government at work!!!RIDICULOUS!!!
FIMF the ll April 08, 2014 at 04:58 PM
Don't sweat it @JoeyD,you can take the bike path to the local businesses.

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